GoonRock's production work with LMFAO has been heard literally everywhere.
From the top of the charts, to ad campaigns for M&M's, Kia, Budweiser and
the NBA, songs like "Party Rock Anthem"
and "Sexy and I Know It" have
been in constant rotation and made LMFAO a household name.
Although life's a party for GoonRock now, when we caught up with him he
told us about his fifteen year climb to fame, how a kept promise from a
friend helped him out, and why he says he had to learn how to be
successful. GoonRock also discussed where the inspiration to create his
Party Rock style came from, and the reaction he has every time he sees an
M&M dancing to his music.
Adam Bernard: A lot of artists try to break into the music world in
their teens and twenties. You're finally getting your chance to shine in
your late thirties. What was going on during all the years leading up to
this? Were you working the entire time and experiencing rejection? Were you
perfecting your craft?
GoonRock: Both. I really got serious in my late teens / early
twenties, and I was always trying to make it. I had a lot of projects that
could have went big, but didn't for whatever reason. The business wasn't
right, or the stars weren't aligned, for whatever reason it didn't happen,
but when you love something you keep doing it whether you're successful or
not. That's what I did and it just happened to happen later in the game for
me.
AB: So you've really been bustin ass for 15-20 years trying to break
through. Did you have any weird jobs on the side that you were doing to
keep this going?
GR: Yeah, I did. Probably the weirdest job was in my twenties, I was
a Tiffany's doorman and I had to wear this like limousine suit. It was like
a tuxedo and it had like a captain's hat. I had white gloves. They were
very strict about how they wanted you to open the door and you had to stand
a certain way. I used to see all these rich people coming in and I would
just be dreaming about when it would be me going in there. It was good. It
was a learning experience. It was humbling, and I think it was important
for me to do some of the not so great jobs. I also worked in a movie
theater. I had a lot of odd jobs.
AB: You're having a really incredible run of hits right now. If you
can, compare where you were five years ago to where you are now. What about
your life has changed?
GR: I think the biggest thing that has changed about my life is my
mentality, because really, although I was trying to break through for 15
years, I didn't know it at the time, but you have to be ready for success,
and accept it. For me it was a lot of visualizing. No one in my family was
successful. I grew up with RedFoo. RedFoo came from success. He knew what
it was to be around money, to be around successful people. For me, I didn't
really have that. I was around him, I was around his family, but I didn't
grow up that way. So for me the biggest change was probably learning how to
be successful, learning how to get what I want out of life. Then comes the
lifestyle change, and the house and the car and all of that stuff, but that
stuff can go away quick if your mind's not right, so to me it's a mental
change that happened with me.
AB: You said you're the first of your family to be successful, which
means you really didn't have the groundwork laid for how to deal with it.
Has anyone helped you deal with success, because it can be trying.
GR: Yeah. I have friends that are successful that are close friends
and I talk to them a lot, and although my dad wasn't a huge success, he's a
big success as far as getting out of the norm. He was from Chicago and no
one in his family really branched out, they kinda did the run of the mill
thing, the 9-5 thing. He kinda struck out and had some successes. Nothing
major, but it did teach me to strive, and I know he had to have a little
bit of what I'm talking about now to even get to where he got, so I learned
a lot from him and I kinda picked up the ball where he left it and I just
kept running.
AB: You mentioned growing up with RedFoo, and I know you went to
school with him, but when and how did the GoonRock - LMFAO musical
connection happen?
GR: Music was always a part of our relationship. He was always
writing raps. We have old videos of us dancing. We always were about music.
We didn't necessarily know we wanted to make music, though. He produced a
friend of ours' demo who ended up getting signed right out of high school,
and I was around that and I was there learning. That's kinda where I got
the bug from. When we really started to take it seriously we both kinda
went our own ways and we both promised that once we got on we would put the
other one on, and he got on, so he put me on. That's kinda how that worked.
AB: When you started creating music together did you envision it
connecting with so many people?
GR: You know, the answer to that question is yes, we did, because we
really, especially with ""Party Rock Anthem," even though it was for another
artist (Flo Rida), by the time we realized that it was gonna be for us we
really did sit and say, "let's change the world." Now "change the world" is
probably too big for what this song is, it's really just a feel good song
that everybody can get into, but that's what we said - "let's change the
world. Let's do something that will make everything crazy and make everyone
feel good in the club. Let's just do the best shit we can do." That energy
is what we went into it with and it really carried through throughout the
song. Every part was paid attention to. We wanted to take the listener on a
ride. We wanted to do something great.
AB: Other than having that vision, why do you think this is working
so well? What musical elements have you put together that nobody thought to
put together, or at least had never put together so effectively, before?
GR: The thing about house music, and some dance music, is it has a
feeling. I compare it to sex. House music, and some dance music, it can be
minimal and then it can climax and it reminds me of sex. It's kind of like
teasing the listener. It's like you get em with this piece and then it's
rising and it's a build and it's like life, so with that theory we realized
that no one had really rapped over house music and dance music, so we
really wanted to take it to the highest level as far as rapping and
singing. Now everyone's doing it, but when we started doing it there was
nothing on the radio really like that. That was kind of our thing, let's
combine rap and this house music thing that we love so much and do
something cool.
AB: And now when you turn on the TV and you see M&Ms and CGI
hamsters dancing to your work, what do you think?
GR: I think "thank you." I'm just so happy when I see it. I love it.
AB: You have worked with a plethora of artists. Give me your best
in-studio story. Tell me about something crazy, or unexpected.
GR: Being in the studio with J-Lo, because I grew up with her (work)
all the way from In Living Color, and I'd seen her on TV, and I'm not
really that excited about stars, but with J-Lo it definitely was "wow, I'm
here with J-Lo and I'm doing her single." It was crazy. It was very cool.
She was just like a homey, like a friend. That was pretty crazy to me.
AB: Speaking of friends, I know you had a friendship with DJ AM.
What was that relationship like? Did you share musical tastes? Did you work
together on anything?
GR: It was a music relationship. He and RedFoo were friends. He had
kinda of grown up around us and came up around the same people. He heard a
CD of mine, I used to make beat CDs, and he was very impressed. He wanted
to sign me. He came over to my house. I ended up not signing with him, but
the next beat CD I remember playing him he was like "yo, you need to listen
to some of this dance, some of this house stuff, and electro stuff I'm into
now." I was doing straight hip-hop. He kinda hipped me to house music, and
that's when I stared to fall in love with it. He was a great dude and a
super talented guy.
AB: Do you have a favorite story from hanging out with him?
GR: I just remember being super impressed by his talent. He was like
a DJs DJ. He would do things that DJs really weren't doing at the time. The
way he would mix songs where he would take something old that you were
familiar with and then mix it with something new, like someone had sampled
it and he would show you what the sample came from. He'd play the old
record in the club and then you'd realize this is in that (current) big
song. So he kind of would take you through a history of music that was
really cool, that people weren't doing that back then, that I really
admired.
AB: Now you're working on an album of your own. Tell everyone about
it.
GR: It is more of a producer album. I am hooking up with artists
that I like, that I'm inspired by, and we vibe a certain way, and I'm just
making music that I love and I hope people connect with. I have been
working with other artists, too, just to keep my name out, keep the Party
Rock brand going, but my album is a big project for me, so I'm excited
about that.
AB: Is it going to be in the same vein with the combination of house
and hip-hop?
GR: Absolutely.
AB: And you said you're working with some people. Is there a small
list you can give me, or is that not allowed yet?
GR: It's forbidden now.
AB: So no contracts have been finalized yet.
GR: That's right. {*laughs*}
AB: That being said, of the people you haven't worked with yet, who
would you most like to give the GoonRock treatment to?
GR: I have a lot of artists that I like that aren't necessarily pop
artists. I really like Inara George and (her band) Bird and the Bee. They
do a different style of music, but I think that we could do something cool
together. I love Radiohead. I
know they're very selective of who they work
with, but I'd love to work with them. I love the old 80s groups General
Public and English Beat, (which featured) Dave Wakeling. I would love to do
something with them. There are a lot of people that I would work with. I
love the current big names, too, but I think that what I do could be very
cool coupled with a different genre that doesn't necessarily do what I do.