In hip-hop the youth can oftentimes get a bad rap (pun intended). As soon as
an artist like Soulja Boy arrives on the scene it creates an assumption that
young artists aren't musically viable and have little to offer. The Chicago
eight piece outfit Kids These Days prove that assumption to be nothing short
of asinine. The group, which recently released their first EP, Hard Times,
is made up of trombone player J.P. Floyd, bassist Lane Beckstrom, drummer
Greg Landfair Jr., trumpet player Nico Segal, emcee Vic Mensa,
vocalist/keyboardist Macie Stewart, guitarist/vocalist Liam Cunningham, and
sax player Rajiv Halim (pictured L to R), all of whom range in age from 18
to 19. Their style incorporates elements of hip-hop, jazz, funk, blues and
soul, and is really something amazing to hear. RapReviews caught up with
Mensa and Beckstrom to find out more about the group, including how they
came together, why they released an EP rather than a full length album, and
why, no matter how old they get, they don't plan on changing the name of the
group.
Adam Bernard: Kids These Days sounds like it might be a play on words
as it's a statement you hear a lot of old folks say; "kids these days, they
don't know anything." Why did you decide to name your group this?
Vic Mensa: KTD was originally an acronym for a graffiti crew that
myself and the trumpet player, Nico, made when we were little kids. We were
in like grade school. Kids These Days was one of the spell outs for it. When
we started the band we were looking for a name. It wasn't really symbolic at
the time, but as our music developed and our sound and style grew it came to
take on pretty much what you just said, turning that concept that kids these
days don't know shit on its head. People always say kids these days don't
listen to good music, don't know anything about good music; it was kind of
like proving that shit wrong.
AB: Your music has not just elements of genres mixed together, but
ENTIRE genres mixed together. Hip-hop, jazz, funk, soul, blues... how do you
make sure you don't step on each other's toes musically when you're putting
a song together?
VM: We don't look at it at all from a genre perspective. We write all
the songs together and we do a lot of piece work, so there's a lot of
different ideas coming from the seven of us and we all hear different
things, hear different lines and melodies, so we just work to make
everything come together, to make everything cohesive. We look at each song
as a different musical composition and we try to make it as coherent as
possible.
Lane Beckstrom: To me, all music is emotional. In most cases, even
with artists that I don't like I can still listen hard and find something
that will make me think, or at least feel, something. So it really comes
down to whether it feels good or not. So far what I've experienced with this
band is that if all eight of us are vibin out and it feels great, everything
usually falls into place and the song just makes itself.
AB: You crush the idea that younger artists are all flash and no
substance. Do you all have extensive musical backgrounds? Were your parents
and grandparents playing albums for you when you were in the womb and
learnin ya from an early age, or did you pick this up on your own?
LB: I guess you could say I have a musical background but I wouldn't
say it became an "extensive" one until about a few years ago. However, I
was always rocking out and listening to whatever my dad would be playing
around the house. I think I became interested in music at an early age
because of him. He had a drum set in the attic for a while and I remember he
took me up there once and got behind them and started playing. I just
remember it being the coolest thing I ever heard or saw, so I guess that got
me hooked. He bought me an electric bass when I was 12 and that was that.
VM: I come from a hip-hop background. So does Nico. Before Nico was
playing jazz and playing trumpet both of us were breakdancing and writing
graffiti and he was spinnin, so I think that's how I got introduced to a lot
of older music, like funk and soul, through the records we would buy for
their breakbeats for him to spin. Macie's been playing classical piano since
she was like five years old. Everybody else has been playing instruments for
a while, but not like Macie, she's been like a child prodigy type
motherfucker her whole life.
AB: Are you, in any way, looking to redefine what a young artist
sounds like, or how people view young artists?
VM: I think, more than anything, we're looking to define what we
sound like and how people think of us. Everything else I would kind of just
look at as a function of that. Our goal isn't, per se, at this point, to
redefine young music, but really just to define ourselves as a part of it.
If we can be a significant part of it and that can, in turn, help to change
the tide of something, that would be cool.
AB: Do you think that by showing what someone your age is capable of
musically people might start to migrate away from the mindless, or is the
mindless always going to find its way to our ears?
LB: There's always going to be bad music out there, but I think you
may be right in saying that people may start to migrate away. If we can
start helping to make that happen, then man... that would be awesome.
VM: I feel like music goes in cycles along with everything else, and
I do think that there's a new cycle coming on right now, that's what it
looks like to me. A lot of young people are coming up and making some really
unique and genuine music at this point. That's the shit that's really
starting to come up, the budding shit right now. What's on the radio and
what's in everyone's ears is still, at this point, a lot of bullshit, but I
definitely do think that things are starting to take a turn in a different
direction in a lot of different genres and I feel really blessed to be
making music right now and coming up at this point and being a part of this
generation that's about to change shit.
AB: You're combatting the mindlessness with your recently released
EP, Hard Times. Hard Times has five songs, with the title track being nearly
six and a half minutes long. Are the hard times really THAT hard?
VM: {*laughs*} That's funny. That was just because everybody wants a
solo and shit and it was kind like reflective of how those songs started
off. Those are pretty much the first five songs (we recorded). We had about
ten, and we set out to record a full length, but we didn't have enough
money. About halfway (through recording) we kind of ran out of funding. All
those songs were originally, no lie, 15 minutes long, because everybody
wanted a solo on em. Cutting it down to six minutes, that was after all the
chops, that was after we cut everything off. We actually play "Hard Times"
differently now. It's shorter and it's, I think, a lot better. It's a lot
cooler.
AB: You met through a magnet school in the Chicago area at the age of
15, but how did the connections actually happen? Were you looking to form a
band and create this sound, or did you keep making new friends who were
talented and looked to find ways to work them into a project you already had
established?
LB: As far as how the band started, it really wasn't anything
complicated. Most of the band went to Whitney Young High school but the
majority of us also all went to the same Saturday music program at this
place called Merit School of Music. Basically, I spoke to my friend Liam
about starting a band - he says I told him I wanted it to be a psychedelic
funk jam band, but I don't remember that - and I asked him if he would talk
to Nico about starting it with us because I didn't know him very well at the
time. After that different people just started asking different people to
join. Nico told Vic to come through because they've known each other forever
and Liam saw Macie sing in the choir program at Whitney Young and asked her
to come. As far as the sound, all we did was just jam and jam and jam in
Liam's basement. It slowly started to take shape and now we're at the point
we're at now.
VM: Macie was kind of scared to come to the first rehearsal because
it was a bunch of dudes that she didn't know up at Liam's house, but
everything worked out.
AB: She has like a dozen big brothers looking out for her now.
VM: Yeah, she got an ass whopping squad if there's ever a problem.
AB: Finally, when you get older are you concerned you're going to
have to change the name of the group to Kids THOSE Days?
LB: Well... nah.
VM: Nah, not at all. I think a beautiful thing about it is that
having youthfulness represented in the name always gives us room to change.
The way I think about it is, honestly, this is not to say that I plan to be,
but a lot of adults are still kids in a way, and it's not even a bad thing.
People don't stop changing until the day they die, so it's like at the end
of the day nobody's ever fully grown, or fully developed, and is done
learning. Nobody knows everything. So to be a kid, I think when we get older
that it just represents certain things about us. We'll keep making our
music. I look for us to be the type of band that is continuously growing,
like a kid would.